She is also welcome to fellowship with the Free Christians. Those associating are free to believe non-trinity or differently per Romans 14:6. Probably most are nontrinitarian and also believe God (Jehovah/Jah/Yah/Yahweh/Lord) will resurrect some to heaven but others to paradise earth, though free, as said, to differ. It's not a formal church organization with a charter and bunch of officials but a "fellowship," an informal group of friends united by friendship or love instead of forced sameness of beliefs. Click:
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A small victory or more??
by JG inlast night my wife told me that she would be celebrating the holidays with me and the kids.
she said i'm a good husband and i deserve it.
she also said maybe we should look at other religions together.
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Increase in Publishers for Canada
by William Penwell injust heard today from my parents that a member of the canadian bethel said that there is a 1% increase in publishers from last year.
they made such a big deal of it but when you consider that this increase is mostly from jdub's that have been raised in it and are now starting to publish it is not such a big deal.
i was also told that they mentioned about the dangers of the internet and also about all the lawsuites that the "apostates" are bringing against the organization.
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nancee park
I believe Lee (Liberal Elder) is no longer a JW, so he did exit. In fact for a while he attended the UU church.
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Elders at my door
by Disposable Hero injust had 2 elders at my door coming to check up on me.
they asked how i was doing and usual chit chat.
i asked them about if they had seen dateline and about the child abuse problem.
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nancee park
Be polite but then mail a whole lot of JWs in the general area some of the things you've learned. Don't tell the elders you're going to do so or mention it to anyone else though just in case they wiretap. A lot of us have simply been mailing "silentlambs.org" to JWs around the world. Help out -- that's my recommendation.
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more excuses, other than libary card?
by lulu in.
i have heard that the wt are offering other excuses other than wanting a libary czard.
does anyone know of any, and where if so can i get the information.
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nancee park
At the top of the page is in small print the word SEARCH. Click on that, then in the search box type UN, U.N. and the like and you'll get plenty of links.
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Welcome Lawrence !
by Simon ingood to see you online bud .
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37734&page=2&site=3#511186.
wish it was in happier circumstances
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nancee park
WELCOME!
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WIRETAPPING
by UnDisfellowshipped ini have had some of strange and weird things happen (strange phone calls, and lots of other weird things, and certain "code words" used towards me), and i believe that there are certain freemasons (or other group), which has tried to use these subtle (and not-so-subtle) threats on me and my family.
(it may be connected to some of my relatives in another state, who may have abuse going on in their family, and we have had a lot of strange dealings with these relatives).. it seems to me, that i have also been wiretapped ("bugged").. certain things that i say in my house, have been repeated to me by other people outside the house.. it is very strange to experience this.. it seems that every single time i would go to the kingdom hall for a meeting, the speaker would repeat something i had said in the house earlier that day or the night before, it was freaky!.
i have seen a few other people post up on this website about being wiretapped by jw elders.. has anyone else experienced any of these things?
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nancee park
Yes, with all my heart I believe it a defnite possibility by the fanatics. Most JWs are good honest law-abiding, but not those with darkness to hide.
Watchtower has a lot of darkness.
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Where are the POLICE?
by DJ ini just finished reading the transcript of the march, i am too overwhelmed to comment about it with a clear head.
i know that there are accusations against people.
so, where are the police?
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nancee park
Jim, others, it should be apparent that the cases are still being compiled. Notice that Bill hasn't been posting a lot since the march, which could well mean he has come across some new things, is meeting with the appropriate authorities and the like. I was pleased to see the huge sign saying FBI INVESTIGATE THE WATCHTOWER and suspect it's underway. Our rights as citizens and Christians deserve Caesar's help (Romans 13:1). Let's give Bill a little time to wrap up whatever things he is having to do, including simply getting back to Kentucky and resting a little, then I'm sure he'll have some things he can share, although others may be only for the legal system.
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AJWRB supports litigation against the WTS
by Lee Elder into learn more about this development visit:.
http://www.ajwrb.org/litigation.shtml.
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nancee park
We do not know his personal circumstances which may not have permitted the time, money and energy needed to push it as fast as it could have gone. But we can be glad AJWRB are also now formally pushing together against the tower that has already been leaning.
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Increase in Publishers for Canada
by William Penwell injust heard today from my parents that a member of the canadian bethel said that there is a 1% increase in publishers from last year.
they made such a big deal of it but when you consider that this increase is mostly from jdub's that have been raised in it and are now starting to publish it is not such a big deal.
i was also told that they mentioned about the dangers of the internet and also about all the lawsuites that the "apostates" are bringing against the organization.
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nancee park
Most who have stayed in it have done so only because they would otherwise lose family ties -- but with the recent revelations of top-down child molestation, the secret UN ties and the like, even some of those are seeing through the so-called "annointed" Governing Body. After all, if you learned that "the boss" of the organization was going to be sued by women for molesting them as children, that's just too reprehensible! Who could blame them for leaving. Ignore the disfellowshipping. That's the re-thinking on these developments.
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Who Wrote "Thirty Years A Watchtower Slave...
by Sentinel inwhen i was recently making a list of the reference books in my personal collection, i recalled that there was this book that the witnesses were afraid of.
i was in my early twenties, and this fellow in the congregation had upset all the elders because he had read this book (thirty years a watchtower slave) and he tried to tell everyone he came across that the witnesses were wrong.
there was absolutely nothing wrong with this man.
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nancee park
Schnell became a Zone Overseer for the WTS, serving in Germany and the United States. Why is his book so feared? One main reason is that he notes that Rutherford had Bethelites spying on himself (and others) in Bethel at work, evenings after work and even while he did Circuit work.
He tells of Rutherford taking all power away from the Russell-appointed board of directors (Gov Body) as well as Russell-era elders, which caused many congregations to wither and also many to completely die. Then Russell gained new members by sending everyone who was left out canavassing for newcomers door-to-door.
One favorite Rutherford tactic was to do something causing public ire such as teaching flag salutes are worship rather than for showing respect so that his own members drew public anger followed later by publicity from himself and some other media, which in turn made the organization look persecuted, generating more internal cohesion and sentiment by those of the public who did not know what he had engineered.